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colorful airport [deleted] 2:51am, 2 February 2010
Hi all flickrites (or flickrians) and Blurbers (or Blurbeans).

I'm scanning 100 years of family photos into my computer. They will be very roughly arranged in chronological order (though I guess that doesn't matter too much), but I was just wondering if some of you who have some experience in putting together a blurb book might have some input into a suggested reasonably simple workflow I might use to ease this massive task.

One of my concerns is how to know that if I correct the contrast on 1000 photos that it will look OK in the final book (I've read a bit about the book printing darker than the pix appear on the screen).

Can I make them look as good as possible individually and then batch process them in the final layout?

Are there any special things I should take into account? Can anyone point to a "family tree" type book that they think is well done to give me some ideas.

Should I do a simple small photo book to practice before I do this family one (which will be the most important one I plan on doing, since I'm not a very good photographer)?

Any comments, suggestions, etc. are welcome.
image freak Posted 12 years ago. Edited by image freak (member) 12 years ago
I have just done this with some old photos of our wedding (1969) and some old family stuff from the 70's. I scanned the prints at 400 ppi, cleaned them up in Photoshop, soft proofed them with the HP Indigo profile, resized them at 300 ppi to fit the various book containers in a 7x7 book and that's it. That's the workflow I pretty much use with all my images destined for books.

I generally find the Booksmart book check to be as near as damn it what I get in print. It does depend on how well your monitor is calibrated I suppose.

You could do a 7x7 as a kind of proof book. You could then adjust the images as needed for the final printed book. My own take is that as long as the book is at least 85% correct colourwise and skin tones are acceptable, I'm not bothered if certain shades aren't 100% true.
colorful airport [deleted] 12 years ago
Thanks freak (i hope that shortened moniker amuses you, rather than irritates). Sounds roughly like I had planned, but what does "soft proofed with the HP Indigo profile" mean exactly. Is that some software program to see how it will look in print, versus on my monitor? And can you recommend a monitor calibration website or freeware or something like that. The colors seem pretty accurate, but I only want to do a project this big once.
image freak Posted 12 years ago. Edited by image freak (member) 12 years ago
Call me Freak, most people do...lol

The HP 5000 Indigo profile is the one that coincides with the printer's press that Blurb use in their chosen workshops.

Here are some links where you can get a basic idea of what it's all about:


forums.blurb.com/forums/2/topics/821


forums.blurb.com/forums/4/topics/2888#posts-13132



www.blurb.com/search/site_search?search=HP+5000+Indigo+pr...


Download the profile from the link below to your desktop and drag it to your Adobe Photoshop Profiles folder on your C drive. You should be able to get info on how to use it from your PS help index or Google it. Plenty of help on Blurb forums though.


www.bonsai-photography.com/

Here's how to do it.

1. With your final image open. Go to View>Proof Setup>; and in Device to Simulate scroll down to HP 5000 Indigo Semimatte profile and choose it. When choosing the profile from the list I usually change the Rendering Intent from Perceptual to Relative Colorimetric for CMYK work. You won't know what the paper profile is so you can uncheck the Simulate Paper Colour box. Likewise with Simulate Black Ink. Now go back into View and check (turn on) Proofcolor and then do the same with the Gamut.

2. Use Levels first or hue saturation or brightness contrasts, etc to get rid of the greyed out areas. The greyed out areas are shown where CMYK inks can't match the hue.

I usually soft proof my final edited image for the book. In other words it's the last thing I do before saving the correctly sized file to my Booksmart folder. When you have completed your proofing return everything back to sRGB and Rendering Intent to Perceptual before saving the file for the book. Don't be tempted to make any more adjustments even though your image will look a bit washed out on screen. It will be just right for printing.

This link may also be of some help in getting you on the right path:
www.computer-darkroom.com/softproof/softproof_1.htm

Calibration depends on the type of monitor you have. Some flat screen monitors are not suitable for calibration. I use a HP w2207 wide screen monitor which has a setting for photo/video editing and is pretty much spot on. Some DELL monitors are designed for web surfing and home/commercial office use and not for photo editing regardless of how much you try and calibrate them. Having said that a friend of mine uses an uncalibrated Dell monitor for his Blurb books and gets splendid results. It all depends what you expect from your books. Some people want a pro spec book to sell, others want a family heirloom. If you are a stickler about correct colour matching then there are plenty of calibration tools in the market. Spyder is one that comes to mind, but you can Google to find more about them.
colorful airport [deleted] 12 years ago
Wow, thanks freak. I owe you one....maybe two. You have given very freely of your time. I will pay it forward in some form or another. see you in the flickr.
image freak 12 years ago
Thanks Lukinosity. No problems. It's what sites like this are for, and good that the Internet is being used for what it was designed for - to share info. Good luck with your book.
loricherokee 12 years ago
Way too complicated for me. Takes all the fun out of working w/photos & making books. Think I'll just keep on doing what I've been doings. Seems to work for me.
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