Help / The Help Forum

Hot Topics

[Official Thread] Have an idea for Flickr? Share it here.
Latest: 13 hours ago
New Flickr Notifications Center and Settings available to all members.
Latest: 5 weeks ago
[Updated April 26, 2021] Flickr is moving payments to Stripe
Latest: 11 months ago
Welcome to the Flickr Help Forum! Click here to get started and to read our Forum Guidelines.
Latest: 17 months ago

 

Current Discussion

Sudden drop in overall views.
Latest: 28 minutes ago
Why can't we put cover pics that in our groups?
Latest: 5 hours ago
Going to "end" in Faves
Latest: 7 hours ago
Cannot Download Photos from Web Browser on iPhone
Latest: 8 hours ago
The "Your Inbox Appears Empty" bug strikes again
Latest: 9 hours ago
why my safe photos are beeing restriced by the bot?
Latest: 10 hours ago
[Acknowledged by Flickr Staff] Notifications - not showing older than 2hrs
Latest: 12 hours ago
Feed page vs. People page
Latest: 15 hours ago
iOS Flickr App
Latest: 25 hours ago
[Identified] No pictures photostrip or else!
Latest: 35 hours ago
[BUG] The "photos not in a set" filter isn't working in Organizr
Latest: 2 days ago
photos being stolen?
Latest: 2 days ago
More...

Search the Help Forum

Searches with non-English charaters like å, ä or ö return zero results

Calle Söderberg says:

Living in Sweden, I often tag my photos with the name of the place where I took the shot. The problem is that the search function returns zero results when I search for words containing the letters Å, Ä or Ö which are not at all uncommon here.

If I tag a shot "Stensjödal" and then click on the tag, Flickr returns all 198 photos I have tagged with "Stensjödal" so far - which is great.

However, if I click on the magnifying glass icon top right over my Photostream and enter Stensjödal - I get zero results. Why?

Same thing in the Organizr - when I search for a word containing å ä or ö in the search down in the thumbnail row it finds nothing.

Any ideas on the reason for this or possible workarounds? I suppose I could add duplicate tag without the umlauts and have them tagged both "Saltarö" and "Saltaro", but is this really how it should work?
Posted at 9:53AM, 25 September 2021 PDT ( permalink | reply )

view photos

Viejito says:

A similar problem from a neighboring country:
www.flickr.com/help/forum/72157719722437268
Posted 4 weeks ago. ( permalink | reply )

view photos

mag3737 says:

I've always suspected that in the very early days of Flickr, they made some efforts to make searches "easier" regarding international character sets and (particularly North American) keyboard capabilities. What I mean is -- to give one example -- they wanted everybody to be able to write their tags in their own language ("Stensjödal"), but have those photos show up when Americans search for "Stensjodal" (unadorned 'o'). This would be a massively complex undertaking to get truly perfect. So maybe they didn't. And maybe there has just never been enough time to get it truly right.

Maybe, furthermore, some of those efforts have yielded code that actually causes seemingly unrelated bugs to happen in search.

This doesn't at all explain other well-known discrepancies in Flickr's search, such as doing the same search in different places (tag clicking vs. Organizr). Probably.
Posted 4 weeks ago. ( permalink | reply )

view photos

Viejito says:

Search is flaky in many other ways:
I looked for “cat” and got photos of a Catholic church...👿
Posted 4 weeks ago. ( permalink | reply )

view photos

mag3737 says:

Viejito:

I would not call that "flaky", because it's deliberate. However, it is REALLY REALLY annoying. Stemmed searching should be a switchable option, not always-on.
Posted 4 weeks ago. ( permalink | reply )

view photos

Viejito says:

mag3737:

Stemmed searching
A stem is not just any chunk of characters cut out of a word.
A stemmed search for ‘cat’ should find catnap and cat's-eye, but not cattle or catastrophe!
Posted 4 weeks ago. ( permalink | reply )

view photos

mag3737 says:

Right. It is more like simple string prefix searching. Still likely deliberate, though.
Posted 4 weeks ago. ( permalink | reply )

view photos

Paris-Roubaix says:

On the odd occasions that I need these characters I just google them and cut and paste them out of a word I find there.
www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Sweden_Typing_the_letters_%C...
Posted 4 weeks ago. ( permalink | reply )

view photos

CarlaFrancisco says:

In Portuguese, we have the "ç" character and it does fine in Flickr searches - I just tried with "Açores" (Azores in English). This should work for every non-English character.
Posted 4 weeks ago. ( permalink | reply )

view photos

ernstkers says:

Paris-Roubaix:

On the odd occasions that I need these characters I just google them and cut and paste them out of a word I find there.

The issue is NOT how to get diacriticals. Most people who use them frequently how to get them with the system they use. The issue is that Flickr isn't able to deal with them correctly.

CarlaFrancisco:
In Portuguese, we have the "ç" character and it does fine in Flickr searches - I just tried with "Açores"

That might depend how you added the ç to your tags. If I add a tag with a diacritical using my photo-editing software, then often Flickr will put it on the tags list as a different tag then when I add the same tag with the same diacritical directly on Flickr (e.g. using the uploadr). When searching Flickr can find only one of the two, although both are spelled exactly the same.

There are several character encoding systems and it seems Flickr isn't consistent with using the correct one. So in some parts one character encoding system is used and somewhere else another. The result is that the same character can land in Flickr's database with different encoding. But when a search is done it's only to one of them. So characters that went into the Flickr database with the "wrong" encoding will not be found.
Posted 4 weeks ago. ( permalink | reply )

Subscribe to a feed of stuff on this page... Feed – Subscribe to help discussion threads