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How to Block an Admin of Pool which troll it since many yeras

decembre says:

For the first time, With the help of the New Notification, i see which admin troll one of my pool (abandoned due to his actions) since many year:
I see he Modify its rules and add insults in tittle / descriptions...

I blocked him, but that has no effect to the pool:
He is always present as admin.

I know, normally we can't demote an admin of pool.
But....

I have screenshot of this notification .

Other request about Poll Admin:
Should be great to have a super power for the first owner of the pool or the oldest admin.
Posted at 3:50AM, 6 December 2021 PST ( permalink )
decembre edited this topic 2 months ago.

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Viejito says:

Rogue admins have been removed from groups before.
If you give enough evidence to staff, they may oblige.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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decembre says:

Viejito:

"If you give enough evidence to staff, they may oblige."
Yes, but it should be more easy to manage these pool things, in general....
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Jim Frazier says:

I've often thought there should be one level above administrator and that's "Founder." They have one extra power above administrators...the power to remove an administrator.

It would allow founders of groups to set up a succession plan for groups so that, if they vanish, the other admin can take over. But it would allow the founder to still maintain ultimate control of their group as long as they're around.

The current problem with admins adding another admin is that they have to have the trust in the person to not foul things up. It's happened before. I've got a couple of groups that I started where I made the mistake of promoting someone to admin and it...did not work out.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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mag3737 says:

The concept of a super-admin ("founder") has been suggested in many Flickr contexts before. AFAIK Flickr has never made any public statement about whether they've actually considered it, but one has to suppose they have.

I've always thought a significant (maybe impossible) hurdle would be how to determine that a founder has "vanished". I don't see an easy solution to that problem without eliminating the advantages of the super-admin feature in the first place. Either way you go, it comes down to trust.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Coyoty says:

mag3737:

They could use a "deadman switch" where if you don't log in after so much time to prove you haven't abandoned the group, you're dead, man.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Linda DV says:

Coyoty:

agreed
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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InnAtElmwood says:

Coyoty:

I'd support such a feature
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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ernstkers says:

Jim Frazier:

I've often thought there should be one level above administrator and that's "Founder." They have one extra power above administrators...the power to remove an administrator.

There are already two levels of power: administrator and moderator. Adding an extra level makes things more complicated. If somebody starts a group and never promotes somebody else to admin, then they have all the powers you want to give to the superadmin.
It's better to review and likely extend the powers of the moderator, e.g. with the ability to invite photos. That reduces the the need to promote people to admin instead of moderator and doesn't make things more complicated with more levels of power.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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~Muriel~ 'NO Fav without Comment' says:

Coyoty:

Agreed!!!
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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mag3737 says:

Coyoty:

They could use a "deadman switch" where if you don't log in after so much time to prove you haven't abandoned the group, you're dead, man.

This, like every other suggestion I've ever seen, is imperfect. How long is "so much time"? No matter what time you choose, you will find vociferous opponents (and justifiably so) who say it's too long, and the same who say it's too short.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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MabelAmber***Pluto5339***MysteryGuest says:

mag3737:

How long is "so much time"?

About a year.

mag3737:
No matter what time you choose, you will find vociferous opponents (and justifiably so) who say it's too long, and the same who say it's too short.

Vote.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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mag3737 says:

MabelAmber***Pluto5339***MysteryGuest:

Vote.

Heh. You know the English idiom "pie in the sky"?
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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MabelAmber***Pluto5339***MysteryGuest says:

mag3737:

Heh. You know the English idiom "pie in the sky"?

pie in the sky
phrase of pie
used to describe or refer to something that is pleasant to contemplate but is very unlikely to be realized.


Why would "voting" not be realizable?
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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mag3737 says:

My point is not whether it can be done. It's whether it would be done.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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MabelAmber***Pluto5339***MysteryGuest says:

mag3737:

My point is not whether it can be done. It's whether it would be done.

As I read it your point was that what Coyote suggested was unlikely to succeed because:

"you will find vociferous opponents (and justifiably so) who say it's too long, and the same who say it's too short."
www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157720220956577/#reply7...

Hence my suggestion to settle the matter by voting.
Whether it "would" be done is a different discussion.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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decembre says:

MabelAmber***Pluto5339***MysteryGuest:

Hence my suggestion to settle the matter by voting

Good idea:
It should be the first time on Flickr, if they agree for that.
:-)
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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mag3737 says:

MabelAmber***Pluto5339***MysteryGuest:

Whether it "would" be done is a different discussion.

When I mentioned the phrase "pie in the sky", I was specifically referring to this "different discussion". I don't think Flickr will ever raise a membership vote on any product-management issue such as this.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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MabelAmber***Pluto5339***MysteryGuest says:

decembre:

Good idea:
It should be the first time on Flickr, if they agree for that.
:-)

Actually there once WAS the option to "vote", some seven years ago, as part of the then "ideas" platform, namely "User Voice":

www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157642364149605/

However, User Voice (it replaced the Flickr group "Flickr Ideas"), did not prove to be a great success....for which, incidentally, the possibility to vote could not be blamed.


Edited to change: "to vote could etc."
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )
MabelAmber***Pluto5339***MysteryGuest edited this topic 2 months ago.

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Coyoty says:

I suggest that if a group owner doesn't do anything to maintain the group for a defined period, they would be asked what's up, and informed that if they don't respond after another defined period, the group would be considered abandoned and transferable.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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decembre says:

ernstkers:

It's better to review and likely extend the powers of the moderator, e.g. with the ability to invite photos. That reduces the the need to promote people to admin instead of moderator and doesn't make things more complicated with more levels of power.


That' a good idea too.

The need of super Admin power is due to my beginning of admin a pool (a long time ago...).
Now i am the only admin of my pools!

But the possibility to share the invits with some Moderators is interesting to extend a pool .
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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mikerofoto says:

Coyoty:

use a "deadman switch"

That sound like a plan waiting for approval, which might take quit some time.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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janetfo747 ~ choose to be kind says:

It has always been a dream of mine:
Founder
Admin
Moderator
Member
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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decembre says:

One more time a dead request about an "Founder" Admin........
Posted 6 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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InnAtElmwood says:

janetfo747 ~ back but slow:

decembre:

I've decided to add a Founder note to groups I've started. Thanks for the idea.
Posted 6 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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